Sen. Lieberman is planning to introduce a bill to strip those who take up arms against the US of their citizenship so they can be treated as enemy combatants.
I originally posted this as a comment in Thrill’s post about the Times Square bomber, but it deserves a top post. Just like with the crotch bomber last December, many members of the GOP and various other right-wing pundits are all over the Obama administration for Mirandizing the suspect. While it might be debatable that crotch bomber didn’t warrant Miranda (a position I disagree with), Times Square Guy is a US citizen. We have Rep. Peter King spouting nonsense like this:
“Did they Mirandize him? I know he’s an American citizen but still,” King said.
As I noted in the other thread - Morionis Ipsa Loquitur, which is Latin for “the moron speaks for itself”.
Never one to be left behind, Sen. John McCain jumped on the “no Miranda for terrorists” bandwagon, along with his pal Sen. Joe Lieberman. This isn’t surprising; Lieberman is co-sponsor on McCain’s egregious bill to change detention policies, which includes applying the “enemy combatant” label, and treatment, to US citizens captured on US soil - this goes so far that Sen. Lindsey Graham, co-author with McCain (and retired Senator John Warner) of the Military Commissions Act, is having nothing to do with it.
You know things are topsy-turvy when it’s Glenn Beck who gets it right. My complete lack of respect for Glenn Beck is well documented, but I will state unequivocally that he is on the right side of this one, and I give him props for it.
Lieberman, though, doesn’t think even this goes far enough. He wants to ratchet it up to a whole new level:
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is planning to introduce a bill that would allow the government to take away citizenship from Americans who join foreign terrorist organizations.
The proposal would amend current law that bars American citizens from fighting for foreign armies at the price of losing their citizenship.
“I think it’s time for us to look at whether we want to amend that law to apply it to American citizens who choose to become affiliated with foreign terrorist organizations, whether they should not also be deprived automatically of their citizenship and therefore be deprived of rights that come with that citizenship when they are apprehended and charged with a terrorist act,” Lieberman, who helms the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said on Fox News.
Now, I do think that those who take up arms against our country do so at the risk of their citizenship. The problem with Lieberman’s proposal is the Constitution already takes care of this:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
The Framers created this section explicitly because it was so easy (relatively speaking) to strip an Englishman of his citizenship. They wanted to make it hard.
We have a system, Joe. It’s called “trial by jury for treason as defined in the Constitution”. Try them in absentia if necessary. And stripping them of their citizenship for a conviction is absolutely appropriate.
But shove this “guilty until proven innocent - oh, wait, you don’t get a chance to prove your innocence” nonsense where the sun doesn’t shine. Stop trying to look tough. It’s not working. You just look foolish.
UPDATE: Here is the text of the bill as submitted today: Terrorist Expatriation Act (PDF file). “TEA”. Hmm. Coincidence? I’d be surprised. Way to rile up the troops. This bill adds new paragraphs to 8 U.S.C. 1481. There are two major problems with this bill as presented.
First, all of the items already listed in that section of the US code are quite explicit (e.g. explicit renunciation) or required to be proven before a competent tribunal, while the new “aiding & abetting terrorists” language is quite soft, and not required to be proven before a competent tribunal. In fact, the draft bill is silent on how any of these supposed activities is to be proven.
Second, as I noted above, the Constitution already covers this, and that section of the US code already covers this:
(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
That language already covers the stuff in this “new” legislation - but it actually requires it to be proven, while the new language doesn’t.
This is headline-making nonsense. Dangerous, stupid, headline-making nonsense.
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